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Title: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Alex - RI on April 04, 2011, 01:02:09 PM
I am sorry if this is the wrong spot but I don't know where else to post it.

When I moved in to where I am living now the beautiful pond a short walk through the woods from my back yard was a HUGE plus.  On the other side of the pond there were fire pits with beer cans littered around the area.  About a year and a half ago some new people moved in up the street and since then, the trees and shrubs along the edge on my side of the pond have been cut and destroyed, litter from beer cans and bottles to snelled hook wrappers and old fishing line is everwhere and graffiti on the old pump house.  I know the kid that moved in is responsible for destroying the trees and I am willing to bet some of the beer cans are from his father.  If I catch the kid in the act or the father tossing a beer can I am going to be on the phone with DEM and the local police.  Until then, what can I do?  I have thought about trying to get some "carry out what you carry in" signs from dem hoping that the people will see that DEM is taking an interest in the area.  Besides that, what are my options?  Trying to keep things somewhat legal but I am quickly getting fed up.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: UglyFishinStick on April 04, 2011, 01:05:00 PM
Unfortunatly there isnt much you can do, people like that will generally ignore the signs you put up, all you can do is call the cops if you catch them in the act
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Curt - RI on April 04, 2011, 01:16:39 PM
One thing that caught my eye is that they have taken down trees and bushes along the water. This is blatantly illegal!!

DEM enforces laws with regard to clearing trees or brush along shorelines. Give their enforcement people a call and let them know what you've seen. At least at this point there will be something on record about it, so there will be a point of reference for future incidents.

Just my $.02 worth.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Alex - RI on April 04, 2011, 01:22:51 PM
Thanks Curt, that is what I will do.  The kid also cut some small pine trees on the other side of the pond leaving 4' tall stumps which isn't only dangerous but also illegal.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Pat_RI on April 04, 2011, 01:26:49 PM
buy a cheap game camera and put it up on a tree and catch them in the act.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Mitz on April 04, 2011, 01:32:18 PM
Install an alligator pit with a trap door!

That does stink! I had a problem house down from mine for a few years, the cops were there every weekend. It sucks having to worry about whats going to happen next.

I think Curt is right starting with DEM might be the way to go.

Mitz
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Alex - RI on April 04, 2011, 01:42:56 PM
I actually did think about installing a game camera.  I also thought about a pit across the pond for the under age drinkers.  I will start with DEM and take it from there. 

The other thing about these people, is they live on a public right of way that has a gate which goes back to the pond.  You ARE allowed to park in front of the gate yet I have heard that the guy threatens to call the cops on people and people worry about him doing damage to their cars.  Enough is enough.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Matt L on April 04, 2011, 01:55:02 PM
Alex I know the area and that is a complete shame.  >:( There is absolutely no excuse for taking such an awesome fishing area like that and ruining it. That Public right of way is not in front of anyones driveway so there is no reason why they would freak out like that. I plan on hitting that within the next couple weeks with my boys and I hope there is no trouble. If there is at least I know the police station is right up the road.

As everyone suggests, I would go with DEM and then local enforcement for the drinking and partying.

Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Curt - RI on April 04, 2011, 02:57:20 PM
Let us know how it goes Alex ;)
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Alex - RI on April 04, 2011, 03:24:32 PM
Matt, shoot me a PM for my address if you want to just park in my yard.  It is right before that public right of way and the walk back isn't much further at all.  I am going to give DEM a call tomorrow because I have no phone signal where I am now but I will let you guys know what they say.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Matt L on April 04, 2011, 03:49:35 PM
Alex, will do and thanks a bunch! I am going to go on April 15th for sure... (unless it is a complete downpour which is not good for a canoe) I will shoot you a message prior.

Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Curt - RI on April 04, 2011, 05:05:28 PM
Sounds good Alex. Hopefully they'll at least be concerned and want to take a look.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: bless on April 04, 2011, 07:35:33 PM
I hope you're not talking about one of the places I frequent often.  It sounds eerily familiar. 
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Alex - RI on April 05, 2011, 12:52:58 AM
Bless, shoot me a PM with a general area of where you're thinking and I will let you know.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: bassamatic on April 05, 2011, 10:11:05 AM
we can see if a deal can be made to help us both and i will be happy to help u solve this issue.where in general r u?and do u care about these other folks?a little southern justice goes along way to makein good neighbors. :-X
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Alex - RI on April 06, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
So the DEM officer I spoke with said he was going to relay the information to the officer that patrols my area and he is going to check it out.

I was rushed by a big German Shepherd that was not on a leash today for the second time.  Both times, the owner call the dog to her afterwards and turns around and walks away before she can be confronted.  Well, today I let her know if I see her dog off the leash again on state property I will be calling the cops.  She has been letting the dog "do its duty" in the middle of the trail and doesn't clean up after it.  I stepped in it yesterday.  No more being polite, no more giving chances, if I catch someone breaking the law back there I am calling the cops.  Until then, I will return every piece of dog crap that I find back there right to their front step.  I think they take the dog back there so they don't have to clean up their own yard.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Curt - RI on April 06, 2011, 10:04:33 PM
we can see if a deal can be made to help us both and i will be happy to help u solve this issue.where in general r u?and do u care about these other folks?a little southern justice goes along way to makein good neighbors. :-X

LOL.. Lance is on the prowl  ;D
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: flippy on April 06, 2011, 11:14:50 PM
Alex,,, unfortunately this happens,, you try to be nice and nothing happens, I think your taking the right coarse,, Hopefully, It doesnt form a big problem, Remember, Love thou neighbor >:( Good Luck
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Curt - RI on April 07, 2011, 11:15:41 AM

I was rushed by a big German Shepherd that was not on a leash today for the second time. 

Hmmm.. maybe some pepper spray for the doggy would keep him at bay next time :)

Definitely keep us posted as to how this progresses, and be sure to have the local police programmed into your cell phone for ultra-quick access to them!
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: RAYZCT on April 07, 2011, 12:27:47 PM
Why not leave a "deposit" for them spread right across the spot where they enter the trail? I'm sure the doggie would love it.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Alex - RI on April 16, 2011, 08:55:31 PM
Quick update.  Animal control called and left a message today asking for the peoples address.  They have been trying to find it but had no luck so we will call back the next time they are open to give them that info.  Hopefully they will go talk to the people.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Curt - RI on April 16, 2011, 09:33:47 PM
That's good news Alex!
Title: Re: I don't know what to do guys.
Post by: Matt L on April 19, 2011, 09:05:26 AM
Good stuff Alex, hopefully something will be done about that.