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The Hawg Forum / Re: Independent Bass Anglers and Dead Bass
« on: July 17, 2018, 03:01:17 PM »
It's apparent that some people who belong to IBA are reading these posts.

So, for anyone from IBA who might be reading this, here are some suggestions for you.

First, this is not an assault on your right to legally catch bass and hold them for a tournament weigh-in. It is an expression of frustration with the way you handle bass during a tournament. I have personally witnessed it. So this is not hearsay or third party info.

If you want people to change their minds about your club, then take some steps to show people that you care about the resource.

1 - Stop allowing anglers to participate in tourneys and use stringers to hold bass for the weigh-in.

2 - Stop allowing anglers to participate in tourneys and use non-aerated containers to hold bass for the weigh-in.

3 - Stop giving points for keeping bass alive and start penalizing people who weigh in dead bass.

4 - Require each and every boat in your club to have some type of aerated livewell/cooler that holds an amount of water large enough to hold 5 bass comfortably, with a pump of some sort to keep the water oxygenated. No livewell? No entry in your tourneys.

None of this is complicated. And none of it is unreasonable.

If this doesn't work for you and you want to allow anglers to join and fish your tourneys without livewells, then switch to a different format, like photo weigh-ins, as mentioned above by @Brazzy

But stop allowing the use of stringers, non-aerated containers, etc. The fish held this way might swim away from your weigh-ins, but there are undoubtedly some of them dying later on due to high stress from poor handling.

There are many different ways of managing bass to keep them unharmed for tournaments.

Please do yourselves and do the bass a favor and put one of these into practice.

The Hawg Forum / Re: Independent Bass Anglers and Dead Bass
« on: July 17, 2018, 02:31:58 PM »
And here you have it. This message was sent to the Facebook page this afternoon.
So you read this and tell me how concerned IBA is about local bass populations.

The Hawg Forum / Re: Independent Bass Anglers and Dead Bass
« on: July 17, 2018, 10:20:07 AM »
@toadhunter You're dead on. Anyone can keep bass alive and healthy if they want to. These guys obviously don't want to and don't care.

@Brazzy My guess is that they are fishing for probably a $50-$75 first place. Some of them might be genuinely nice guys, but their catch and release ethics are sorely lacking.

If everyone would please call 401-789-0281 and complain about this, asking them to please revoke this club's permit privileges permanently, it will go a long way toward putting a stop to their sorry methods.

Hot summer weather can make the fishing tough! Great job  :thumbup:

The Hawg Forum / Re: Independent Bass Anglers and Dead Bass
« on: July 15, 2018, 07:20:02 PM »
I am scared to even think about how many bass that was kept from there last night due to improper care.

Makes me sick just to think about it.  :puking: :crying:

The Hawg Forum / Re: Independent Bass Anglers and Dead Bass
« on: July 15, 2018, 02:56:48 PM »
Morons >:(

What kind of boats are they using?

Anything from bass boats to canoes and jon boats.

The Hawg Forum / Independent Bass Anglers and Dead Bass
« on: July 15, 2018, 01:00:07 PM »
Back in 2016 I was conducting a guide trip on Indian Lake. While I was preparing to launch my boat, a bass club was there preparing for the start of a tourney.

I spoke with one of the guys and learned that the club was called Independent Bass Anglers.

During my trip, I witnessed people in that tourney using stringers to hold their bass. I also witnessed an angler putting bass into a cooler or some other type of storage box with no aeration system. I knew this by the fact that I saw him repeatedly empty water out and put new water in.

Long story short, when I completed my trip, I found many, many dead bass at the launch area. Some of them were big bass, too, with one or two between 4 and 5 lbs. and others over 3 lbs. I was disgusted with what I saw.

I reported them to DEM for their lack of proper care for the bass they caught and weighed in. DEM reprimanded them for this, but apparently continued to give them permits.

Well, I was contacted by another forum member this morning who told me that he fished at Indian Lake yesterday and saw Independent Bass Anglers there again, completing the weigh-in for a tourney. And once again there were dead bass floating at the ramp. One of the club members told a fellow member to pick up the dead bass because they had gotten in trouble in the past for leaving dead fish at the ramp.

So, apparently they have made a habit of making sure they clean up their carnage before they leave in order to cover their tracks and keep from getting scolded by DEM again.

Well, if I can do so, I will work my butt off to make sure they never get another permit to run a tourney in RI. I'm tired of seeing and hearing about their careless handling of bass during tournaments and the large numbers of dead fish they leave behind when they're finished.

They allow the use of stringers and they allow the use of containers with no pumps, to hold bass for the duration of the tourney. They seem to have a track record of killing high numbers of bass during the summer months, and they have been doing this for at least the last 3 years that I am aware of.

It's time for this stupidity to stop once and for all.

I will be contacting DEM on Monday to let them know about this and I will be requesting that they revoke any existing permits for this club (and the people who run it) and they they never issue them another permit in RI.

I would like to ask that everyone else do this also. Please call DEM at 401-789-0281. Ask to speak to Alan Libby. He's the person in charge of issuing permits for tourneys.

I realize that a person is allowed to keep up to 5 bass per day, so technically an entire club could kill up to 5 bass per participant. But this is not acceptable behavior, and clubs who operate this way need to be held accountable.

A bass in RI takes roughly 5 years to reach adulthood. And these guys are waltzing into area lakes and killing many of them off in a matter of hours, at every lake they go to. There is no respect shown for the fisheries and for other anglers who go to great lengths to keep bass alive during tournaments, by spending money on livewell pumps and other accessories to take proper care of the bass.

Please help end this by calling DEM and requesting that they put a stop to it now.


The Hawg Forum / Re: Hydrowave
« on: July 12, 2018, 05:27:45 PM »
Its not going to make a bad angler into a good angler.

Agreed. Not happening.. ever  :nope:

I spent hours on end staring at that thing

I remember doing that with my first one, back in the 1980s!  (giggle)

What you are looking for is depth, contour changes, hardness of bottom, rocks, grass, etc.

Exactly  :yes:

it wasn't this magic wand that found fish. It took getting a line in the water, looking for visual queues, feeling the bottom, and getting bites to establish the pattern. From there you then use the tools you have to replicate it.

And there you have it. The sum of finding and catching bass consistently  :nod:

The Hawg Forum / Re: Hydrowave
« on: July 12, 2018, 02:06:42 PM »
it sure is fun taking 1st place money from a guy in a fully rigged boat as I drive away with my crawdad in my truck

Been there, done that. Know the feeling. But it's also fun having a boat that will hold two anglers and all of our tackle very comfortably. To each his own, and within the budget  ;)

Cool. Looking forward to hearing about the new reel!

However, the SX was one where I felt was a backlash nightmare waiting to happen

Yes, that was the one. What a piece of junk it was. The reel itself was nice, but the braking system was horrible.

I wrote a three part blog series here:

These 3 posts are old, and are missing some photos, but the info is still good.

The Hawg Forum / Re: Hydrowave
« on: July 12, 2018, 11:18:15 AM »
This thread is great! These kinds of discussions are what makes forums so special for sharing and learning.  :yes:

The idea that electronics are pointless because you cant afford it really doesn't work.

Agree 100%

The same goes for all fishing equipment. Doesn't matter whether it's Talons, Power Poles, high end rods and reels or electronics. Everyone has a budget they have to work within. Saying that something more expensive than you can afford is a waste of money doesn't make that a true statement.

And, as always, everyone is entitled to their opinion  :nod:

Thanks @Brazzy

I actually bought a Revo many years ago and returned it to Dick's in trade for a Curado. I don't remember exactly which Revo it was. Maybe the S or STX? Anyway, I absolutely could not get that reel to stop backlashing, no matter how I adjusted it. So returning to the Revo again was with a bit of hesitation. This Revo, however, didn't disappoint. And for under $100, you really can't go wrong.

I fished with it some more last night and landed a tank of a bass. The reel handled it perfectly, as did the Lew's Carbon Fire Rod that I matched it up with.

I reviewed the Carbon Fire Rods recently at this link:

Really, really pleased with them both for the price  :yes:

The Hawg Forum / Re: Jack Hammer
« on: July 12, 2018, 11:07:21 AM »
@Brazzy Great info. Thanks for sharing!

I currently use boot tail soft swimbaits as a trailer. But I have also used Zoom Super Flukes in the past. In light of your info, I might go back to the flukes and see if I notice a difference.  :yes:

For the last year or so, I have been scouring the marketplace to find solid rods and reels that won't break the bank.

My latest review is for the Best Baitcasting Reel Under $100. This one is a true beast for the price!

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